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	<title>Comments on: On Fundamentalists, Terrorists and Phantom Threats</title>
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		<title>By: slashingtongue</title>
		<link>http://jnarvey.com/2009/09/22/on-fundamentalists-terrorists-and-phantom-threats/comment-page-1/#comment-1891</link>
		<dc:creator>slashingtongue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 05:13:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Firstly let me make this clear. Islam and Christianity are OK. Crazy Islam and Crazy Christianity are the problems.

Te threat of Islam is physical. The threat of Christians is much more ideological. The is just a stone throw away from the former.

For example, in Florida, parents took their kids out of school when they found out that Muslims are studying in that school. They have the option of removing kids from the class when they are being taught about evolution (not to mention our President&#039;s speech). We have crazy politicians like Michele Bachmann that believes that &quot;America should be back in the hands of God.&quot; There are people that cheer the arrival of our dead soldiers because America allows homosexuality to exist and therefore, in their minds, should be punished. 

To me, the threat of Islamic terrorism is primary. It can happen any time. Whereas the threat of the crazy Christians is long term and would not harm us yet. Should the threat of Islamic terrorism be compared to forest fires and hurricanes, Christian fundamentalism in US is climate change... Both need to be addressed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Firstly let me make this clear. Islam and Christianity are OK. Crazy Islam and Crazy Christianity are the problems.</p>
<p>Te threat of Islam is physical. The threat of Christians is much more ideological. The is just a stone throw away from the former.</p>
<p>For example, in Florida, parents took their kids out of school when they found out that Muslims are studying in that school. They have the option of removing kids from the class when they are being taught about evolution (not to mention our President&#8217;s speech). We have crazy politicians like Michele Bachmann that believes that &#8220;America should be back in the hands of God.&#8221; There are people that cheer the arrival of our dead soldiers because America allows homosexuality to exist and therefore, in their minds, should be punished. </p>
<p>To me, the threat of Islamic terrorism is primary. It can happen any time. Whereas the threat of the crazy Christians is long term and would not harm us yet. Should the threat of Islamic terrorism be compared to forest fires and hurricanes, Christian fundamentalism in US is climate change&#8230; Both need to be addressed.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick Ross</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrick Ross</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 08:10:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I think Rachel Maddow would disagree with you. &lt;i&gt;But&lt;/i&gt;, Rachel Maddow is little more than an ideological chatterbox, so I digress.

You certianly are right that the attacks that Muslim terrorists have planned and executed have been on a much broader scale.

But the one thing that I would say is that if we allow ourselves to become complacent about the small and isolated attacks of Christian fundamentalist terrorists (and it seems like we agree fully on how they should be addressed under law) we leave ourselves open and unprepared for any such group that may attempt a broader-scale attack &lt;i&gt;a la&lt;/i&gt; McVeigh.

My argument is that they&#039;re &lt;i&gt;potentially&lt;/i&gt; more dangerous because we don&#039;t address these threats properly and with the credulity of an Islamic threat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I think Rachel Maddow would disagree with you. <i>But</i>, Rachel Maddow is little more than an ideological chatterbox, so I digress.</p>
<p>You certianly are right that the attacks that Muslim terrorists have planned and executed have been on a much broader scale.</p>
<p>But the one thing that I would say is that if we allow ourselves to become complacent about the small and isolated attacks of Christian fundamentalist terrorists (and it seems like we agree fully on how they should be addressed under law) we leave ourselves open and unprepared for any such group that may attempt a broader-scale attack <i>a la</i> McVeigh.</p>
<p>My argument is that they&#8217;re <i>potentially</i> more dangerous because we don&#8217;t address these threats properly and with the credulity of an Islamic threat.</p>
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		<title>By: jnarvey</title>
		<link>http://jnarvey.com/2009/09/22/on-fundamentalists-terrorists-and-phantom-threats/comment-page-1/#comment-1880</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 15:47:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Patrick. Actually, my contention is not that Christian terrorists don&#039;t exist -- I absolutely agree that Christian fundamentalists who target abortion clinics might be effectively charged under terrorism laws (those who simply threaten such acts would probably be charged under our laws about &quot;uttering threats&quot;, I suppose). 

But there is a qualitative difference between murdering someone at a local clinic and the far more devastating and audacious attacks (9/11, 7/7 or the Mumbai massacre) inspired by Al Queda. Very few people are actually &quot;terrorized&quot; across the country when a violent act occurs at some local clinic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Patrick. Actually, my contention is not that Christian terrorists don&#8217;t exist &#8212; I absolutely agree that Christian fundamentalists who target abortion clinics might be effectively charged under terrorism laws (those who simply threaten such acts would probably be charged under our laws about &#8220;uttering threats&#8221;, I suppose). </p>
<p>But there is a qualitative difference between murdering someone at a local clinic and the far more devastating and audacious attacks (9/11, 7/7 or the Mumbai massacre) inspired by Al Queda. Very few people are actually &#8220;terrorized&#8221; across the country when a violent act occurs at some local clinic.</p>
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		<title>By: Joshua</title>
		<link>http://jnarvey.com/2009/09/22/on-fundamentalists-terrorists-and-phantom-threats/comment-page-1/#comment-1878</link>
		<dc:creator>Joshua</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 04:24:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Despite the fact that extremists exist in all faiths,Islamic faith in particular has been dragging its feet to get with the modern times- on purpose.That points to an agenda.Christian bible thumpers are not all that hard to spot.Islamists on the other hand ,willingly hide behind others and use our own laws,loopholes and all,to exploit and deceive.Constantly ranting abour Israel ,and continuing dumb ass theories about jews,dead give aways.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Despite the fact that extremists exist in all faiths,Islamic faith in particular has been dragging its feet to get with the modern times- on purpose.That points to an agenda.Christian bible thumpers are not all that hard to spot.Islamists on the other hand ,willingly hide behind others and use our own laws,loopholes and all,to exploit and deceive.Constantly ranting abour Israel ,and continuing dumb ass theories about jews,dead give aways.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick Ross</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrick Ross</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 02:52:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I must disagree with you, Jon. Christian Fundamentalist Terrorists &lt;i&gt;do&lt;/i&gt; exist, and they&#039;re as dangerous as any other terrorist.

They may even be more dangerous, but not on their own merit alone. They may be more dangerous because many people in the western world don&#039;t take the idea seriously (it seems to be thematic in this post).

Perhaps Jim Adkisson had no political aims when he shot up that church. The man who killed Dr George Tiller, however, did. As does every Christian fundamentalist who kills or threatens an abortion clinic.

I think those people &lt;i&gt;should&lt;/i&gt; be charged as terrorists, and convicted to the fullest extent of that particular law. They should be treated no differently than Muslim terrorists, Sikh terrorists, or any other terrorist.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I must disagree with you, Jon. Christian Fundamentalist Terrorists <i>do</i> exist, and they&#8217;re as dangerous as any other terrorist.</p>
<p>They may even be more dangerous, but not on their own merit alone. They may be more dangerous because many people in the western world don&#8217;t take the idea seriously (it seems to be thematic in this post).</p>
<p>Perhaps Jim Adkisson had no political aims when he shot up that church. The man who killed Dr George Tiller, however, did. As does every Christian fundamentalist who kills or threatens an abortion clinic.</p>
<p>I think those people <i>should</i> be charged as terrorists, and convicted to the fullest extent of that particular law. They should be treated no differently than Muslim terrorists, Sikh terrorists, or any other terrorist.</p>
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