Comments on: Is Copenhagen Anti-Democratic? http://jnarvey.com/2009/12/16/is-copenhagen-anti-democratic/ Essays and opinions on current affairs and politics. Published from Vancouver, Canada by new media writer Jonathon Narvey Tue, 07 Feb 2012 20:05:37 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Bugs http://jnarvey.com/2009/12/16/is-copenhagen-anti-democratic/comment-page-1/#comment-2889 Bugs Wed, 16 Dec 2009 21:13:55 +0000 http://jnarvey.com/?p=2221#comment-2889 The writer seems to start from a very different position that I do. I don't feel we're negotiating anything. We are dragged behind the vortex of the USA, because a third of the jobs in the country depend on access to American markets. But what negotiating, anyway? Sure, something is going on behind closed doors, but what is perfectly evident is that arms are being twisted under the assumption that we have no time left to bugger around with democracy. Obama is pandering when he isn't preening. You have to wonder, is there an authentic voice getting through the babble? -- the nations of the world who are being manipulated into believing they are owed a continuing income from 'climate debt?' Why doesn't anyone recognize, in public, that whatever the climate truths, the reason for the panic, for the headlong rush into 'doing something, anything, as long as it's something' ... is no more. The most reliable 'Science' we have, the NASA satellite data, indicates no increase, and possibly a decrease in temperatures. Even if all the scientific speculation is true, there is time to take a pause, and to develop and engineer approaches that work. We don't need to create a supra-state level of supervision -- certainly not until we understand a lot more than we do now, and not before all the scientific voices are heard. It's the idea that we must have a solution by next weekend that makes raises this to the level of true farce. The writer seems to start from a very different position that I do. I don’t feel we’re negotiating anything. We are dragged behind the vortex of the USA, because a third of the jobs in the country depend on access to American markets.

But what negotiating, anyway? Sure, something is going on behind closed doors, but what is perfectly evident is that arms are being twisted under the assumption that we have no time left to bugger around with democracy. Obama is pandering when he isn’t preening. You have to wonder, is there an authentic voice getting through the babble? — the nations of the world who are being manipulated into believing they are owed a continuing income from ‘climate debt?’

Why doesn’t anyone recognize, in public, that whatever the climate truths, the reason for the panic, for the headlong rush into ‘doing something, anything, as long as it’s something’ … is no more.

The most reliable ‘Science’ we have, the NASA satellite data, indicates no increase, and possibly a decrease in temperatures. Even if all the scientific speculation is true, there is time to take a pause, and to develop and engineer approaches that work.

We don’t need to create a supra-state level of supervision — certainly not until we understand a lot more than we do now, and not before all the scientific voices are heard.

It’s the idea that we must have a solution by next weekend that makes raises this to the level of true farce.

]]> By: Joanne (T.B.) http://jnarvey.com/2009/12/16/is-copenhagen-anti-democratic/comment-page-1/#comment-2888 Joanne (T.B.) Wed, 16 Dec 2009 20:14:07 +0000 http://jnarvey.com/?p=2221#comment-2888 Copenhagen was never about 'democracy'. It is about one-world governance - Unelected head honchos forcing us to pay money to poorer nations under the ruse of climate change. But would it even get there? Follow the money. Copenhagen was never about ‘democracy’. It is about one-world governance – Unelected head honchos forcing us to pay money to poorer nations under the ruse of climate change. But would it even get there?

Follow the money.

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