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	<title>Comments on: Protesters No Match for Olympic Spirit in Vancouver</title>
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		<title>By: Friday Photography: 2010 Olympic Protest Edition &#124; Unambiguously Ambidextrous</title>
		<link>http://jnarvey.com/2010/02/13/protesters-no-match-for-olympic-spirit-vancouver/comment-page-1/#comment-3395</link>
		<dc:creator>Friday Photography: 2010 Olympic Protest Edition &#124; Unambiguously Ambidextrous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Apr 2010 02:39:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] has his post up here and more pictures here. He also has a good YouTube video of some of the interviews with the [...]</description>
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		<title>By: khephra</title>
		<link>http://jnarvey.com/2010/02/13/protesters-no-match-for-olympic-spirit-vancouver/comment-page-1/#comment-3242</link>
		<dc:creator>khephra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Feb 2010 19:17:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So because educated citizens have myriad reasons for resisting oligarchy, their objections are frivolous?  

Listening to the video, assuming that was you asking the questions, it seems obvious that you&#039;re generally unfamiliar with Olympics or Canadian history.  Are you really so ignorant of the plight of Canadian aboriginals?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So because educated citizens have myriad reasons for resisting oligarchy, their objections are frivolous?  </p>
<p>Listening to the video, assuming that was you asking the questions, it seems obvious that you&#8217;re generally unfamiliar with Olympics or Canadian history.  Are you really so ignorant of the plight of Canadian aboriginals?</p>
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		<title>By: craig andrew</title>
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		<dc:creator>craig andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Feb 2010 06:25:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Saw the protesters tonight Slamming the Taliban and fighting for Women&#039;s rights under the Taliban as well as education for all. Oh no sorry that is why are troops are over there fighting with thier lives. The protestors were calling our brave Men baby killers and saying we should pull out and I guess let the Taliban have thier way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Saw the protesters tonight Slamming the Taliban and fighting for Women&#8217;s rights under the Taliban as well as education for all. Oh no sorry that is why are troops are over there fighting with thier lives. The protestors were calling our brave Men baby killers and saying we should pull out and I guess let the Taliban have thier way.</p>
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		<title>By: jnarvey</title>
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		<dc:creator>jnarvey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Feb 2010 03:30:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Error fixed.

Sincerely, Mr. Young and Optimistic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Error fixed.</p>
<p>Sincerely, Mr. Young and Optimistic.</p>
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		<title>By: Mister Old &#38; Cranky</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mister Old &#38; Cranky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Feb 2010 03:25:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marlon Brando. Marlon Brando. Marlon Brando.

Damn kids fooling about with their internets and tubes don&#039;t know films.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marlon Brando. Marlon Brando. Marlon Brando.</p>
<p>Damn kids fooling about with their internets and tubes don&#8217;t know films.</p>
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		<title>By: Mister Old &#38; Cranky</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mister Old &#38; Cranky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Feb 2010 03:08:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marlon Brando. Marlon Brando. Marlon Brando.
Damn kids these days!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marlon Brando. Marlon Brando. Marlon Brando.<br />
Damn kids these days!</p>
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		<title>By: The_Iceman</title>
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		<dc:creator>The_Iceman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Feb 2010 21:59:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I went downtown too to take some pictures.  I credit you for actually stopping to talk to those clowns.  I got a lot of dirty looks because I was laughing hysterically as I was photographing them...but talk to them?  What are you nuts?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I went downtown too to take some pictures.  I credit you for actually stopping to talk to those clowns.  I got a lot of dirty looks because I was laughing hysterically as I was photographing them&#8230;but talk to them?  What are you nuts?</p>
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		<title>By: ck</title>
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		<dc:creator>ck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Feb 2010 16:05:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What about the Poverty Olympics? The Homeless and their advocates? They clearly knew why they were out.

Seems in a city with about 18% child poverty rate, spending billions on the Olympics and basically telling its own poor to f-off so it can be easier for all to pretend they don&#039;t exist is enough to make them and perhaps other people with a conscience to be pissed have reason to protest.

It seems obscene to put on such events that benefit no one. Heaven forbid these athletes should actually have to go to school and get a real job like most of us strugging out there.

Given today&#039;s slushy start, I&#039;m gathering that karma has indeed taken over.  

These games will be another money loser and the tax payers of Vancouver will be stuck with that bill for years to come. Just ask one of us Montrealers about that one. We just finished paying off our 1976--30 years later.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What about the Poverty Olympics? The Homeless and their advocates? They clearly knew why they were out.</p>
<p>Seems in a city with about 18% child poverty rate, spending billions on the Olympics and basically telling its own poor to f-off so it can be easier for all to pretend they don&#8217;t exist is enough to make them and perhaps other people with a conscience to be pissed have reason to protest.</p>
<p>It seems obscene to put on such events that benefit no one. Heaven forbid these athletes should actually have to go to school and get a real job like most of us strugging out there.</p>
<p>Given today&#8217;s slushy start, I&#8217;m gathering that karma has indeed taken over.  </p>
<p>These games will be another money loser and the tax payers of Vancouver will be stuck with that bill for years to come. Just ask one of us Montrealers about that one. We just finished paying off our 1976&#8211;30 years later.</p>
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		<title>By: David Zeglen</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Zeglen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Feb 2010 14:51:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jonathon, 

Thanks for the video work, I would have enjoyed being a live spectator myself. It&#039;s irritating to see how in vogue kuffiahs have become as part of the &#039;activist chic&#039; movement.

Anyway, in the mist of all that chaos you sifted through, the only concrete point that emerged from the protests was the debt issue, which is an understandable concern, but not something that, in my mind, can be evaluated properly until after the games. The surplus profit angle has gotten a lot of coverage historically as a way for protesters to put heat on the history of Olympic events given the past track record, but this strategy begins to make protesters sound like grubby capitalists as well as eviscerates the nuanced range of interests that exist from event to event, city to city.

Either way, I don&#039;t see the use in reducing an Olympic event to a s
ingle value financial surplus and past games, like the &#039;88 Summer Olympics in Seoul, demonstrate that past host cities have realized the potential for the games to transform its international relations and national morale, while not necessarily incurring debt or generating outstanding revenue. What do you think?

What exactly is with the First Nations debate in Vancouver regarding approval from tribes? I&#039;ve read conflicting information, not helped by Naomi Klein&#039;s bit in the G&amp;M about ski resorts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jonathon, </p>
<p>Thanks for the video work, I would have enjoyed being a live spectator myself. It&#8217;s irritating to see how in vogue kuffiahs have become as part of the &#8216;activist chic&#8217; movement.</p>
<p>Anyway, in the mist of all that chaos you sifted through, the only concrete point that emerged from the protests was the debt issue, which is an understandable concern, but not something that, in my mind, can be evaluated properly until after the games. The surplus profit angle has gotten a lot of coverage historically as a way for protesters to put heat on the history of Olympic events given the past track record, but this strategy begins to make protesters sound like grubby capitalists as well as eviscerates the nuanced range of interests that exist from event to event, city to city.</p>
<p>Either way, I don&#8217;t see the use in reducing an Olympic event to a s<br />
ingle value financial surplus and past games, like the &#8217;88 Summer Olympics in Seoul, demonstrate that past host cities have realized the potential for the games to transform its international relations and national morale, while not necessarily incurring debt or generating outstanding revenue. What do you think?</p>
<p>What exactly is with the First Nations debate in Vancouver regarding approval from tribes? I&#8217;ve read conflicting information, not helped by Naomi Klein&#8217;s bit in the G&amp;M about ski resorts.</p>
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		<title>By: Fred</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Feb 2010 14:21:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agreed.

For the most a sad bunch of deluded middle class kids pining for some altruistic utopia thingy or a bunch of losers and failures in life who can&#039;t accept that their the pathetic position of their life so far is their fault.

Rather a tragic, pathetic lot, the lost rump of society, the failed flotsam of humanity.

Put the lot of them together and you&#039;d get a couple of dozen working brain cells.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed.</p>
<p>For the most a sad bunch of deluded middle class kids pining for some altruistic utopia thingy or a bunch of losers and failures in life who can&#8217;t accept that their the pathetic position of their life so far is their fault.</p>
<p>Rather a tragic, pathetic lot, the lost rump of society, the failed flotsam of humanity.</p>
<p>Put the lot of them together and you&#8217;d get a couple of dozen working brain cells.</p>
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